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4/20/2013 12:41:00 AM Letters to the editor: Letter-writer's argument against Catholic Church crumbles
I find it interesting that Ms. Rahoi says she was “shocked” to find the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) had a discrepancy, in that it omitted the verses from Exodus which state that “You shall not make for yourself a graven image…” That’s funny. In my copy of the CCC on page 496, under the section titled, “The Ten Commandments” it very clearly there! Did she really look at the Decalogue in the CCC? Or perhaps her issue is with the images themselves that can be found in abundance in any Catholic Church? I wonder which is the real issue here? Her whole argument against the Catholic Church and its Catechism crumbles when one simply takes the time to look and see the words right there in all their scriptural glory. She then goes on to state that “Never have I read in God’s Word that authority has been given to a man or church to remove one of God’s “holy and just and good” commandments…” Let me illuminate the matter. In Matthew 16, Jesus says to Peter, “… you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” As Augustine put it, ‘I would not believe in the Gospels were it not for the authority of the Catholic Church’ ( Against the Letter of Mani Called “The Foundation” 5:6). Finally, I would like to point out that without the Catholic Church, she would not have the Bible as it is known today. It is the Catholic Church that convened councils to discern and determine once and for all which writings should comprise the canon of scripture. In the council of Hippo (393) and Carthage (397 & 419) the decision was finalized and ratified. As John Henry Cardinal Newman once said, “To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant.” “There are not more than 100 people in the world who truly hate the Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they perceive to be the Catholic Church.” ~Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen
Brian R. Corrigan, director of Religious Education, Holy Cross Catholic Church, Mendota
Posted: Sunday, April 28, 2013
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Iâ€™m not sure Iâ€™m following everything you are trying to convey, so forgive me if I say things that donâ€™t quite answer your questions.
YOUR WROTE: You say that men willingly die for Christ and that is a good thing, to be braged about. If however a musluim gives their life for Allah they are crazy radicals to be hunted down and destroyed. Is not their fath as important as yours?
If someone is sincerely deceived and in their deception they give their life (thinking itâ€™s the right thing to do) for a false God, I donâ€™t see why God would hold this against them. Itâ€™s when people have had opportunity to learn and know about Christ/true God and they choose not to learn, or they simply reject Him. Only then would this be held against them. God is fair and just. You can be sure of it. One thing about Allah (false God) verses Christ is that Christ died for us and paid the penalty for our sins so that we could be released from paying it ourselves. Love begets love. So it is very reasonable that one might want to give their life for Him (one who came and died for them) out of love. I donâ€™t know much about Allah, but to my knowledge there is no teaching that says Allah died for anyone or came to save anyone, which would make it more unreasonable to give your life for him, beside the fact that he's a false God. We need to remember that there is only one truth, one true God (Creator), and there is only one Savior. It would be a shame for someone to give their life for a deception.
YOU WROTE: Good Christians send remote controled aircraft to kill someone and if 100 innocents happen to get killed why, collateral. If they set off a bomb and 3 innocents are killed a wide section of a state is shut down and tousands of rounds are fired at two people with only one gun between them and you two say nothing.
Of course when you say â€śgood Christiansâ€ť you are being facetious. I agree that what is taking place in this country, as of late, has been more than unjust. I feel very bad over what happened in Boston. What do you want me to say? What are you saying? What can we do? I can pray, and that is what I did. What gives me comfort is that I know God will make everything right (Rom12:19). All those who are unjust, oppressive, corrupt and wicked will receive a just sentence. No one is getting away with anything, though it may appear that way now. This world is on its last leg (relatively speaking soon to end), and compared with eternity this life is nothing more than a puff of air, or as one grain of sand compared to a sea shore. This life is all temporary, yet we sometimes make it the eternal. Itâ€™s all backwards. I find comfort in keeping my eyes on the eternal.
This country is going down. I know from reading my Bible that this is just the beginning. There is much more death, suffering, and oppression in store, and I wouldnâ€™t be surprised if itâ€™s right around the corner. No one is going to escape it. The only thing I can say is that we need to be right with God. There are lots of wonderful, encouraging, promises for the faithful. God will be with His people.
I can think of a couple reasons (Iâ€™m sure there are more) why God might allow all of this to come upon this country. First of all they (government and churches) have basically rejected God in many ways. The following is the attitude of the religious world, Rev 3:17 says, â€śBecause thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.â€ť Also, IMO, those in high places are getting more and more oppressive, sanctioning immoral behavior, etc. when they ought to know better, and their getting somewhat atheistic in many ways. How can God bless a country in such a condition as this? It may be that the only way to wake people up out of their sleepiness is to allow trouble, famine, pestilence, and war. If this is the case then it would be a good thing, not a bad thing. God is â€śnot willing that any should perishâ€ť (2 Peter 3:9). If the only way God could save me was by allowing suffering, pain and grief to come my way, then I would want Him to let it happen. I would rather have a life of eternal rest, peace, and joy than to, comparatively, have a very short life of nothingness, wouldnâ€™t you? 2 Cor 4:17 says, â€śFor our light affliction, which is but for a MOMENT, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory 18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal but the things which are not seen are eternal.â€ť Another reason why God may allow suffering, death, etc, may be to show us the results of sin, something He would have us hate (only possible by grace) instead of love.
Hey, Iâ€™m really sorry about all the pain it appears you have been through. One day, maybe soon, itâ€™s all going to end. Rev 21:4 says, â€śAnd God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.â€ť I happen to believe this verse with all my heart. All the suffering, pain, etc will one day pass away from the minds of those who receive Christ and choose to follow His Word. Donâ€™t you find this comforting?
Posted: Saturday, April 27, 2013
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I may some what agree with you , Kepha and Karen. The huge exceptions I have with the both of you and the many like you are many. The ones that are paramount however are like one you two keeplalling back on, "Would grown men die for a lunatic, and or liar."? We keep that statement in mind and look at the number of young men and woman and innocent children you have killed and mamied with it You say that men willingly die for Christ and that is a good thing, to be braged about. If however a musluim gives their life for Allah they are crazy radicals to be hunted down and destroyed. Is not their fath as important as yours? Good Christians send remote controled aircraft to kill someone and if 100 innocents happen to get killed why, collateral. If they set off a bomb and 3 innocents are killed a wide section of a state is shut down and tousands of rounds are fired at two people with only one gun between them and you two say nothing. I, wonder who God will be more angry with/ The people who did the deed or the ones who sent them , in His name , to do it. Have you ever been there? Have you ever held the broken, bloody remains of a friend in your arms, looked upward and screamed why God why? Have you. If not, shut down your computer, get down on your knees and pray for forgivenes now, both of you. A young lad gave his life in Boston witha sign in his hands saying NO MORE HURTING< NOW PEACE. Was his death, like Christs , in vain?
Posted: Friday, April 26, 2013
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Frist, it is not reasonable to dismiss the Gospels as having no historical credibility. As I have pointed out before, the number of ancient manuscripts, their age, their agreement, and the support of extra-biblical texts makes the New Testament a very well supported ancient document.
Second, if one can reasonably believe that Jesus is God then all bets are off in terms of what He can do (miracles). And if one accepts the existence of Jesus, I think the only reasonable conclusion that can be made is that He is Lord.
My two favorite arguments for the divinity of Jesus are 1)'Lord, lunatic, or liar' and 2) the witness of the martyrs. A very brief overview: #1 says that Jesus, who claimed to be God and was sentence to death for this claim, was either lying about being God, was crazy and thought He was God, or was really God. It is unlikely a liar would die for his lie. It is unlikely that a lunatic would be so well respected as a teacher. That leaves 'Lord.' This is very brief overview: C.S. Lewis has far more to say in 'Mere Christianity.' The witness of the martyrs is connected. Would grown men willingly die for a liar or a lunatic? These are men who traveled and learned at the feet of Jesus.
These are some of the reasons I believe but ultimately faith is a gift. It is offered to all, accepted by many, and fully utilized by some. I'm just getting the wrapping off.
Posted: Thursday, April 25, 2013
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Kepha, I am not denying the existence of Jesus, although you are wrong about no serious historians denying his existence, but I am questioning the bible as being factual, including its' quotes and miracles attributed to Jesus. And since they did not have accurate recording devices at that time, as you point out, how can you 100% believe what you read from 2000 years ago? Do you also believe the Iliad and the Oddessy?
Posted: Wednesday, April 24, 2013
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No Karen. I would not be quoting His word. I would simply be echoing others interpretation of His words and strangly enough I stil believe in those words and more importantly I try very hard to live those words. I fail more often than not. I have killed and maimed. in so called dedeance of my country in altercations brought about by radicals like you and Kepha. I don't need chapters and verse to back up my beliefes. I have faith. I also have common sense and eyes to see with. Do U? Have faith? Common sense? Eyes to see with. A burning need to learn. or just a need to be right?